Felipe González maintains that there would be no amnesty if Sánchez did not need votes from Junts and speaks of "personal interest"

He believes that it would spoil coexistence and break equality between Spaniards and says that he did not understand Zapatero even though he listened to him.

The former president of the Government Felipe González has charged this Tuesday against the possible approval of an amnesty law for those involved in the 'procés' and has been convinced that the acting president of the Government, Pedro Sánchez, would not approve it if he did not need Junts' votes to continue in La Moncloa, while speaking of "personal interest."

In an interview on Antena 3, reported by Europa Press, he indicated that he does not see it as reasonable that what is being attempted now is not to forgive the Catalan leaders who committed crimes, but rather that it is the State that has to ask for forgiveness.

González thus wanted to remember that he agreed with the pardons for the independentists condemned by the 'procés' and with the "legally impeccable" reason that was given to grant them, but that he is not in favor of the "forgetfulness" that an amnesty entails.

Therefore, he refuses to believe that the State was the one that acted repressively and that the correct thing was the disconnection laws and the call for the referendum on October 1, 2017.

"Would we be talking about amnesty if those seven votes were not essential for the investiture of a progressive government?" González asked, hinting that in his opinion there would not be one.

The former president recalled that the PSOE opposed the amnesty even the day after the July 23 elections. Along these lines, he recalled that at that time, the leader of the PSC, Salvador Illa, rejected both the amnesty and self-determination.

González has warned that the amnesty would mean "spoiling coexistence" between citizens for future generations and the "rupture of equality" among Spaniards.

Along the same lines, he has warned of the problem that the crime of embezzlement for political reasons can generate, since it would also have to be extended to other cases, not just the 'procés'.

CHANGE YOUR MIND YES, BUT "NOT EVERY DAY"

González has responded to former socialist president José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero, who the day before was openly in favor of the amnesty, defended its fit into the legal system and justified that Sánchez had only been against the type of amnesty proposed by the independentists.

Thus, González has indicated that he did not understand "anything" of what Zapatero said, even though he listened to him carefully. Furthermore, given what Sánchez himself called "changes of opinion" regarding his policy in Catalonia, González has pointed out: "To rectify is for the wise and for the foolish to do it daily."

He stressed that you can change your mind, but "not every day and for the reasons" you see, because governments have to be predictable to guarantee legal security and trust, he recommended.

"They should take us citizens seriously, those of us who represent nothing," he asked, criticizing the comparison of this possible amnesty with the one made in the Transition, which responded to a change of regime, from the dictatorship to the democracy.

On the other hand, when questioned about his own changes of opinion while he was in office as President of the Government, specifically the position on Spain's entry into NATO, González has admitted that he changed his mind but has made it clear that he did not take a decision "out of personal interest."

He has pointed out that democracy consists of respecting minorities but starting from the basis that minorities respect majorities, limiting the capacity of influence of the independence parties to that which the national parties want to grant them.

González has said that he misses a greater fight against inequalities in the face of the "increase" in imbalances and has maintained that a progressive or left-wing policy "is certainly not an agreement with Puigdemont."

HE IS SURPRISED THAT THEY CALL HIM DISLOYAL

On the other hand, the former socialist leader has stated that he is "surprised" that within the PSOE there are people who call him disloyal for criticizing the Sánchez Government on issues such as the amnesty.

He has taken pride in the fact that during his mandate (1982-1996) he laid the foundations of the Welfare State, improving living conditions, coexistence and development. "I have completed my task, and whoever comes after, let him continue another stretch," he added.

González, who has rejected that he has become ideologically right-wing, has assured that the PP has committed "all the possible errors", such as wanting socialist votes while calling to repeal 'sanchismo' and making an agreement with Vox.

"If someone had doubts within the Socialist Party, the classic voter, who had to vote, they removed their doubts," he indicated, criticizing at the same time that the 'popular' do not agree to renew the General Council of the Judiciary (CGPJ), something that he considers unacceptable and "the origin of many of the evils" of Justice.

The former president has recalled that he voted for the PSOE in the last elections, has stated that he would "never vote" for a PP government and has rejected his appeal for an abstention by the 'popular' so that Sánchez does not depend on the independentists.