Pension reform : lawyers are not convinced by Belloubet and Delevoye

The guard of the Seals and the high commissioner to the reform of pensions have received the representatives of the lawyers on Tuesday evening. Insufficient to calm the mounting anger that swells.

The meeting was scheduled, but the tide of black robes who parade in the capital Monday, has undoubtedly put a sudden additional pressure on an executive eager to calm a grumbling that goes up. In the aftermath of an event that would bring together more than 20 000 people against the pension reform, the representatives of the 70,000 lawyers liberals have been received at the ministry of Justice by Nicole Belloubet, and the high commissioner for the reform Jean-Paul Delevoye. "I have answered the keeper of the Seals in priority, considering the anguish that we could perceive the world of lawyers," has declared Jean-Paul Delevoye at the end of the meeting.

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"The ball is in the camp of the government"

see the faces tense of the participants at the end of the meeting, the concerns seem far from being mitigated. "The ball is in the camp of the government", has launched a pithy style the president of the Conseil national du barreau (CNB), Christiane Féral-Schuhl, before crossing the porch of the Chancery. "We have not received any guarantee on the future of our stand-alone plan for retirement," said a short time later the bâtonnière of Paris Marie-Aimée Peyron to the AFP, claiming to already "work to new joint actions with other professions".

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The lawyers liberals have made it known on social networks as of the publication of the report, they do not want the universal regime. Their situation is special. Today, they contribute to the national fund of the barreau français (CNBF), a caisse autonome created in 1948, with two billion of reserves. If they satisfy the conditions of age and duration of insurance required to liquidate their retirement, they receive a minimum pension of 17 000 euros per year, regardless of their contributions. Well above the minimum promised in the future system-to-points.

Has this basic pension, plus a complementary (in points) to which they contribute on a mandatory basis, in function of their income and at the height of a slice that they select each year. A system that they deem to be "supportive" and "perfectly built". Much better, in any case that the future system, promised by Emmanuel Macron.

A decrease in pensions and a doubling of contributions?

Their calculations are quickly made. By switching in the future plan, their contributions would increase from 14 to 28% (up to 40 000 euros). What for many to put the key under the door, the average income of the profession are 43 000 euros. Worse, still according to their own estimates, their pension would be reduced by 30 %. A figure denied by the high commissioner. "When they hear that the universal plan would double their premiums and reduce their pensions, I can understand the concern," responded Jean-Paul Delevoye at the end of the meeting. But there would be according to him "differences of interpretation". If the report indicates a convergence of the plates and rates, it also indicates the "profession by profession, of the paths of convergence to make the integration compatible with economic balance". We have a number of tracks that clearly some of the participants (at the meeting, editor's note) discovered", said he.

paths of convergence...

The high commissioner promised that the debate will be in-depth "figures against figures, arguments, counter-arguments" at a next meeting scheduled within fifteen days. "We want to show the extent to which collective solidarity is more reassuring that a professional solidarity. We're going from what has been referred to show that there are other approaches," insists Jean-Paul Delevoye speaking, as the prime minister Edward Philip this past week, "paths of convergence".

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what is calm down the grumbling? Nothing is less sure. As patron of the pension fund of lawyers, she would have loved to be participate in the meeting, but as during the consultations, it has not been invited. However, she did not budge : "we walk, reacts Viviane, Schmitzberger, president of the CNBF (Caisse nationale des barreaux français) and former bâtonnière of Metz. All this is elements of language. We are talking about transition, but it is to reach a situation in which we don't want to. We don't want a universal plan because we would lose our solidarity. The universal system will work as well without the CNBF." The path to convergence so expensive that the government still seems far away.