The CNI concludes that it is impossible to know what documents Pegasus stole from Sánchez and the ministers, acknowledges Robles

MADRID, 7 Ago. (EUROPA PRESS) -

The Minister of Defense, Margarita Robles, has reported that the National Cryptologic Center (CCN) -an agency attached to the National Intelligence Center (CNI)- finds it impossible to know what documents were stolen from the phones of President Pedro Sánchez and the ministers that they were infected between May and June 2021 with the 'Pegasus' software and has assured that, in their case, they did not keep any official documents.

In an interview with Europa Press, the Minister of Defense explained that the technical reports carried out by the CCN to date reveal that it is "impossible" to know what data was taken from the terminals of members of the Government and that he has "no idea" what was taken from his.

In this key, the minister explained that she herself cannot find the information they extracted from that intrusion because "the amount is very small". The volume of data that was stolen from the minister's phone from espionage was 9 megabytes, the smallest of the three intrusions. And it is that, according to the Executive, the cyberespionage program accessed 2.6 gigabytes and 130 megabytes of Sánchez's mobile and more than 6 gigabytes of information from the mobile of the Minister of the Interior, Fernando Grande-Marlaska.

The espionage opened a controversy about the department of the Executive in charge of the security of the president's mobile phone. The Government clarified in 2020 that Pedro Sánchez's communications depended entirely on the Palacio de la Moncloa, without the CNI having anything to do with it. However, the Pegasus crisis was settled with the dismissal of Paz Esteban as head of the intelligence services.

For his part, the Minister of the Presidency, Félix Bolaños, denied being responsible and assured that his department does not establish security protocols for government mobile phones. Robles, on the other hand, clarified days later that the security of the mobile phones of members of the Government is "transverse" and that there are "many" agencies within the Administration in charge of them.

In this regard, the minister now focuses on knowing who or who caused the intrusion because they are the "only responsible" for this criminal act. "I think that at this moment the important thing is to know who has entered the telephones, we cannot deviate from the issues", stressed Robles.

Robles, who admits the difficulty of finding out who is behind the espionage, hopes that justice can resolve this issue. Everything else, as he has criticized, "is a debate that can be done, but that does not correspond to the problem."

"We have to know who they have been and the rest is a disquisition that, effectively, does not correspond to the real problem of finding out who infected the phones," he settled, while stressing that this problem does not only concern Spain but it affects many political leaders of other countries that have also suffered attacks with Pegasus.

The judge of the National Court that is investigating the 'Pegasus case', José Luis Calama, has agreed to the declaration as witnesses of both Marlaska and Robles, who has advanced the intention of both to testify in writing, as he already did Bolaños on July 5.

The head of the Central Court of Instruction number 4 also agreed on July 28 to send a request to the Council of Ministers in order to proceed to declassify the matters, acts, documents, information, data and objects, declared secret or reserved and that could be seen affected by these testimonies.

Legal sources indicate that the judge plans to offer Robles and Grande-Marlaska three options for their testimony: face-to-face, written statement or statement by videoconference.

But that summons will come, they add, after the Council of Ministers gives the green light to their request for declassification of matters declared secret. Only then will the date be searched on the calendar, and these same sources believe that it will already be in September.